Tillery 11/14...18 hours of it

[circle hook]

Dang gearhead you the man. I didn't understand nothing you said, please post the pictures. LOL......CRUS, I believe you are on to something about the lost hookups with that much weight and current.... another point for the circle, as it can still function as designed regardless, but then again so can the khale, by letting the fish load the rod instead of crossing their eyes. As for the bent hook lets see you had the khale, rookie a J and stonewall a circle, deduction= they all can and will fail at times.

[catfishrus]

Originally Posted by circle hook

As for the bent hook lets see you had the khale, rookie a J and stonewall a circle, deduction= they all can and will fail at times.

I think you on to something there...even the 4x strong hooks pier preasure was talking about..I broke one of them into removing it from a flathead with pilers. Although the hook done its job there is not much flex to them. Now those Diachci lite circle hooks...not on my boat. Those hooks are made out of pot metal/aluminum or something and will striaghten out right quick....they made for juggin.

[1 Gearhead]

The 7/0 Khale rockwell on the surface was a 50 on the c scale which is fairly hard and the core 1/2 way through rockwelled at 43. The 7/0 gamma octopus circle was 59 very hard on the surface and 58 core . The Gamma is through hardened and the khale dosen't seem to be . So your would more than likely break a Gamma before it would bend to much , but bend the Khale instead of breaking. Looks like a trade off to me . I only checked one of each also, so in a pack of 50 are they consistant . I don't know. I will admit this, Im a Khale user . I didn't get pictures of the scoped hook but the Gamma has a lot less microscopic scars/flaws it looked smoother .

[jerry9497]

good stuff

[circle hook]

GEARHEAD FOR PRESIDENT ..... I agree with Jerry that is some good stuff.... this ole redneck learned something.

[BUCK]

gearhead we need hooks make out of the metal that goes into the 48 car.

[1 Gearhead]

What Kryptonite

[catfishrus]

Great stuff gearhead!....Im going to hold on to my bad hook...I will give it to you at Tillery. You can check it ..if you like. Again great stuff.

[Leatherneck]

well shoot...I use to have the ambition to catch a monster blue....now I just want to join the ranks of "hook bender".....lol

[Leatherneck]

Hey I am hitting Tillery in the morning and I know last week Mike used a lot of weight to hold him down...yall think tomorrow will be a heavy weight day?????

[circle hook]

nah, rivers back to normal, probably be no current. I'm planning on going also

[Doctor]

Have never seen the bending of the hook like that, have had the point bent over from being down in the rocks but not the bending of the hooks, I'm running 8/0 Gamakatsu circles and we average 6-12oz. during most of the year on the Ohio River, summer months we have to drift but from Jan-till June the water seems to always be cranking, and haven't experienced a good fish coming unglued and hope I don't I'm slow to get to a rod as the tip is in the water and the drag is hummin by the time I pull it out of the Monster holder, just have never gotten into a big hurry, even when they have me in the trees as I'll take the rod and put it back into the rod holder and crank the rod down till the fish can't stand the pull and they will almost always come back out the way they went in, hope you guys get it figured out, I think i would go ballistic if that happened to me several times in one outing.................Doc

[1 Gearhead]

I don't set the hooks either ,I'll let them pull it down almost to the water then I get up and get hopefully its hard to get out the holder. I do this with Khales and Circles . I have to hold the boys that fish with me thats the hard part .

[catfishrus]

Well I seen a good one come off a 8/0 gamo circle hook this weekend...I dont know...maybe we just having a string of bad luck lately. Rod loaded up..livebaiter made 4 cranks on the reel before even lifting it and still pulled off in good current. Fish boiled the top after it came off. Bill said we needed to snail the hooks on...I didnt do that. So do all of you snail your circle hooks on?

[circle hook]

CRUS, if you using hooks with upturned eye they need to be snelled for a straight pull from rod, otherwise they pulling from a angle which will cause them not to work right. i'll also add, make sure you leaving plenty of hook exposed and be sure there ain't no little scale from your bait on the hook point. make sense?

[katsandsuds]

I use offset eye hooks, and snell them. I think it pulls straight from the shank, and doesn't let the hook bend at the knot. Better hook up ratio with the snell, and still very strong. Use palomar for the swivel's.

[jerry9497]

I snell mine

[rivercatsc]

I snell mine too!

[catfishrus]

Well dang if it ant one things its another!..all yal snelling your hooks on! Livebaiter when we get these bugs worked out. Might have to take a day off and go fishing again. Thanks folks..will try it. Bill showed me how he snells his...thats the good thing about fishing with different folks...always learn something new from everyone.

[Bream baiter]

I just have to disagree about the snelling issue. Tomahawk did a seminar a couple of years ago and talked about tying hooks with a loop so the bait can move around freely. I tried it and will never go back to snelling. I get good hookups and noticed that I get LOTS MORE bites with the hooks on a loop instead of snell. I use Owner circle hooks with no offset. They are bent at the eye.